PowerPC heroes


A few posts back Zen, who always tells it like it is, gave credit where credit was due and nominated some PowePC friends among us. I’d like to go a step further and nominate some PowerPC heroes among us. My definition of a hero is someone who goes above and beyond the call of duty, and these folks have certainly done that for a platform Apple abandoned many years ago now.


Cameron Kaiser

For those who don’t know Dr. Kaiser (yup, he is a bona-fide MD, with degree, and unlike this DVM can also code) is the man, the myth, the legend behind both Classilla and Tenfourfox. During the day he practices the finer medical arts on homo sapiens. At night he is almost single handedly is keeping viable browsers alive on not one, but two PowerPC operating systems. In 2013 this is no mean feat, and has required many selfless hours of coding and pathching in front of a PowerMac G5. Classilla is, for the one person reading this blog not already aware of it, the only browser anyone should be using on Mac OS 9. Now at version 9.3.2, Kaiser is focusing on a series of security rollups that will hopefully bring Classilla on a par with Mozilla 1.6 in the near future. You might not want to do your internet banking with Classilla, but for routine tasks it is surprisingly usable. Even if you don’t use or like Tenfourfox we all owe an enormous debt to Kaiser and the rest development team for keeping a Mozilla browser at source parity with Firefox in 2013. Dr. Kaiser also consistently declines all donations, as he thinks money would cloud things up. He’s probably right, but I wish I could give something other than praise and thanks to this most noble cause.


Tobias Netzel

An important contributor to Tenfourfox, Tobias is also the developer behind Leopard Webkit. Leopard Webkit gives you an up to date webkit-rendering engine in the skin of Safari 5.0.6, turning what was a terrible web browsing experience with Safari on Leopard into something…frankly awesome. The hybrid gold ringed Safari/L-webkit icon is now my go to browser on 10.5, something I would have never thought would happen.


Marc Hoyis

Marc is the guy behind Click to Plugin and I belive also now maintains Click to Flash. These are Safari extensions that give a delightful one-two punch to the most hated software ever made (that would be, I don't like to even say the word, so I'll just sign it out Freddy Mercury style...."Flash-ahh-haaaaa") and replace it with Quicktime on not only Youtube but also a surprising number of other commonly visited web sites. It may seem ridiculous at first to have both extensions installed, but as the very useful macrumors forum poster B-G discovered, Click to Flash not only blocks Flash but also presents itself to the server as Flash 11.5. This fools even the BBC, I had all but given up ever watching clips on the site in Leopard but now most video gets served up to my PowerPC mac with no complaints. The Click to Plugin extension takes over at this point and gives you several file quality playback options in either the native HTML 5 player or Quicktime. On a lower speck G4 ibook Quicktime in 360p works…awesome. You may not think 360p is all that, but Quicktime does it good. Combine that with a Quicktime Pro license and you can also download the file once it fully loads. They are just....awesome extensions.


Jeroen Diederen

Jeroen hails from the low country across the pond and is the lead developer and chief cheerleader of MintPPC. Taking a basic Debian PPC install and slapping the Mint LXDE desktop on top of it in 2009 was a stroke of genius, and has breathed new life into many an old mac. Jeroen has removed most of the major headaches from your typical Debian PPC install, though even a casual browse of the MintPPC forum will show there are still tons of issues. Most of them due to the exotic mobile hardware choices Apple made back in the day. Lets face it, Apple never intended for Linux to run on an ibook G4, and the fact that it does at all, let alone well, is pretty remarkable. Jeoroen is always helpful to those with difficult hardware, always willing to compile the applications people want for MintPPC, and never gets impatient with people less technically savvy than he. Which would be almost everyone. An honorable mention must also be made here to os911, a regular MintPPC contributor who has written some excellent installation manuals, and is also uniquely helpful, especially with old world macs and all the challenges they bring to the table.


Microsoft

Yes. That Microsoft. Microsoft still provides regular security updates for Office 2004 and 2008 for PowerPC. Apple doesn’t do anything similar for its in house apps, and credit is where credit does, the behemoth from Redmond gets some respect from a former hater.

Well, those are my nominations for PowerPC heroes. Please feel free to disagree, or nominate anyone else you think worthy in the comments and thanks again to the above for keeping this architecture “Alive and Kicking…”. Man, I just had a Freddy Mercury and a Jim Kerr moment in one post. Its officical, the Doctor is old. Very old.

11 comments:

  1. I would like to share my opinion. The above list are not just PowerPC heroes. They are like DC Comics and Marvel´s ones. SuperHeroes. For me everyone using PowerPC in 2013 are PowerPC heroes in a certain way.
    P.D. Authors Zen & Dr. Dave are Superheroes sharing their *nix skills. We have to thank you too.

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  2. Aside from the superstars you mention, the real unsung heroes of the PowerPC world are overwhelmingly in the Linux camp... those developers and testers who work in the wee hours for nothing just to keep everything working on your PowerPC Mac.

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  3. Dr. Dave certainly did a good job on this post.

    Most PowerPC software development these days is Linux and BSD based for obvious reasons. It is the secure and functional future of the architecture.

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  4. You are absolutely right, the developers and testers of PPC Linux are also full blown PPC heroes. While the PPC Linux community is small compared to x86 Linux, it is still very active, and I am hoping will grow in the future. Grow? I hear someone in Des Moines saying.. how is that possible? The P-cubed board being released by Servergy soon (Thomas Carlson was the first person to post on this) will support Fedora, Debian (therefore likely MintPPC will run on it) and Ubuntu. A dual core Power based system for cheap could, I hope, spark some life into Power based Linux for things other than Air Force supercomputes and rack mounted servers. I am hoping it'll have a knock on Raspberry Pi like effect on PowerLinux. Our Apple Powermacs aren't getting any younger, and long term we need other hardware manufacturers to step up and make new hardware if there is any hope of this great architecture being saved.

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    1. I agree about needing new hardware in the future.

      People like me though are set for life on Apple G4 towers because I have a small army of them and only use two full time.

      G4 towers are the one thing I hoard like a young hungry hamster. :)

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    2. We should make an open letter to freescale for make us G4 pin compatible proccesors http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/taxonomy.jsp?code=MPC8XXX7XXX There are still a market for it.Technology make thinner processors every 2 years in the AMD-Intel war. Maybe g5 in g4 socket or anything like e600 (dual core) for a quad G4 machine...Maybe I am dreaming, but since 2005 there are no new brains for ours G4. Also we should write an open letter to Acard, who is not making mac cards anymore (ata and sata pci cards). In these days only source for mac parts at a logic price seem ebay.

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    3. The G4 7410 (180nm), G4 7447 (130nm) and the 7448/e600 (90nm) are still made and sold at the manufacturer level. OWC is the only real Mac client Freescale has now. OWC still makes 7447 upgrades for G4 towers. The 7448 is a single core e600. e600 is really just the new name Freescale gave the G4's in 2005. They even classify the 7410 and 7447 as e600 now.

      It's not the CPU connection that connects to the socket on the logic board. It's the daughter card that the CPU is soldered to that does. The 7448 daughter card I have can take 90nm and 130nm CPU. This doesn't mean a 7447 and 7448 can be soldered on the same board though. Due to their vast power requirement differences the supporting hardware on the daughter card like capacitors and such needs to be different for each.

      This means a manufacturer like OWC buys bard daughter cards and CPU. They then build the cards around what CPU it gets. The 7410 chips would need a 180nm compatible card but it's all about the 7447 and 7448 now anyway. To my knowledge the 7410 is only used now in low requirement SoC systems.

      A G5 on a G4 board or daughter card would never work. You need all the supporting G5 power hungry supporting hardware like the capacitors and PSU they used. Even the MDD PSU (highest wattage of all G4) would not have enough juice to run a single G5.

      G4 and G5 are totally different beasts in every way really. The G4 is 100% Freescale/Motorola made/engineered and the G5 is 100% IBM. The whole AIM alliance ended with the G3 and after that Motorola and IBM went their separate ways in terms of manufacturing and engineering standards.

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  5. http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/accelerators/ it is empty. I think Zen bought the last ones...so we should make and open letter to them to keep making us the fastest thinest freescale processor on a daughterboard G4 pin compatible as new tech, sonnet, daystar and powerlogix made in its day. I made the processors upgrade in my G4 DA 466 in the apple way...Took an ghz dual from a quicksilver 2002 and made the 4th pin mod.
    Modern Ibm computers mix power processor with amd ones on Blade systems. Maybe we can use rapsberry PI or an android device as R2D2 inside the G4 and Vnc it to the g4 to have video acceleration or you tube flash things in the future....

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  6. Please add this coment to the last one
    I use my Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo mt15 with easytether universal app on my g4 in tiger and quad 6600 hackintosh in snow as wifi dongle and 3g modem. Maybe another android app can share the processor to the G4, because the geekbench on android devices is higher than my g4 dual ghz...For shure the future its blending architectures in a way of other.

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    1. OWC still makes a batch every so often when they get enough customer requests. I bought my 7448 card in 2009. They now only buy the 7447 CPU.

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  7. Well, I feel absolutely honored. I am only reading this page after so many years. I can tell you that I picked up an old hobby and I am now playing around with Debian 10 unstable on a PowerBook G4 6,2. You can read a bit about it here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/debian-sid-installation-guide-powerpc.2146795/page-5
    I am trying to get an LXDE desktop with Mint LMDE 3 Cindy on top.

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