tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post2608248904120998503..comments2024-02-27T11:08:45.499-08:00Comments on PowerPC Liberation: Debian's path is already lit by the Ludditezenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01006273801333641372noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-39223079486508209822013-10-22T15:08:03.076-07:002013-10-22T15:08:03.076-07:00A bit more info here - again, it's only in tes...A bit more info here - again, it's only in testing/jessie where there is a problem. Looks as though someone has narrowed it down:<br /><br />http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=106024Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-20890770308712927582013-10-19T10:39:44.618-07:002013-10-19T10:39:44.618-07:00I have never had this happen before Jessie... Did...I have never had this happen before Jessie... Didn't happen with Wheezy, Squeeze or earlier. It was quite a surprise...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-4003309177085741322013-10-19T07:40:00.272-07:002013-10-19T07:40:00.272-07:00I have no idea how this is happening to you guys, ...I have no idea how this is happening to you guys, because when I doi the same things I NEVER get GNOME. Whether I use the LXDE image or the netinstall and don't install the default, which would be GNOME.<br /><br />There must be something that you're fundamentally doing wrong. I have never had GNOME install unless I intended to.zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01006273801333641372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-2466591307092935792013-10-18T10:08:56.837-07:002013-10-18T10:08:56.837-07:00I can confirm the issue that Thomas had with GNOME...I can confirm the issue that Thomas had with GNOME installing with lxde. Used the netinst yesterday (18-Oct) and deselected Desktop Environment on install - as I always have. When I tried "apt-get install lxde" (or task-lxde-desktop or anything involving lxde) gnome was also installed. This is a problem as I want lxde w/o gnome - as most lxde users would I expect? I kept stopping Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-65271828288481080192013-07-24T15:18:53.606-07:002013-07-24T15:18:53.606-07:00I can assure you that LXDE as it exists now will b...I can assure you that LXDE as it exists now will be around for a long long long time. It has far too many loyalists to ever fade away. <br /><br />I know people with top of the line quad core x86 chips that still use LXDE. It has it's own very deeply dug niche. <br /><br />While it may not be as big as GNOME or KDE in terms of users, the ones that do use it are more dedicated to it.zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01006273801333641372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-49347827704479795282013-07-18T16:14:40.461-07:002013-07-18T16:14:40.461-07:00How about here?
http://engla.github.io/kupfer/hel...How about here? <br />http://engla.github.io/kupfer/help/<br /><br />I'll agree on your statement about running Debian 7. Much better than I had even anticipated!B-rockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03997596702539921342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-87712282498039589702013-07-17T12:13:01.536-07:002013-07-17T12:13:01.536-07:00I am in love with Debian 7 and LXDE, even on a 1 G...I am in love with Debian 7 and LXDE, even on a 1 Ghz powerbook with just 512 MB of RAM it runs like hell!<br /><br />BTW anyone knows any manual for Kupfer, i am using it everyday more and more.. but i would like to use advaced tasks like send mails, etc.. Alberto Mihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01330197018321198129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-38155460967376410442013-07-16T06:21:09.449-07:002013-07-16T06:21:09.449-07:00Thanks for all your responses. After playing arou...Thanks for all your responses. After playing around with this at length yesterday, I have come to the conclusion that while under Wheezy one could install the base system and then install LXDE over it... and not get GNOME, too, it doesn't work the same way with Jessie. I have installed LXDE by using the latest weekly build, debian-testing-powerpc-lxde-CD-1.iso, and by installing it over a Thomas Carlsonhttp://www.ifixoldmacs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-4998272207440530562013-07-15T22:27:23.250-07:002013-07-15T22:27:23.250-07:00I keep forgetting to mention things I know perfect...I keep forgetting to mention things I know perfectly...<br /><br />You can also enter the following at install to choose your desktop:<br /><br />desktop=< your choice ><br /><br />In place of "your choice" you simply enter lxde, gnome, xfce or kde.<br /><br />My brain is lost on a cluster project over the last couple weeks. Hence the 4 comment response.zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01006273801333641372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-89633886372071376352013-07-15T18:42:51.933-07:002013-07-15T18:42:51.933-07:00This all got me thinking as to how you got GNOME w...This all got me thinking as to how you got GNOME when you didn't want it. If you're using the LXDE image then you would have to manually install GNOME afterward.<br /><br />GNOME is the default on the image with no GUI name and it turns out on the netinstall also. I had never done a netinstall where I installed the GUI which is why I guess I thought it didn't install one. Today forzenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01006273801333641372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-24162094759197088602013-07-14T17:48:56.373-07:002013-07-14T17:48:56.373-07:00I forgot that you can still choose a GUI on the ne...I forgot that you can still choose a GUI on the netinstall for a sec but I prefer to install debian without anything but the base and then add the GUI. <br /><br />Deselect desktop environment and print server (unless you want to use it as a print server) and then do what I listed above. zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01006273801333641372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-24874546894591897302013-07-14T16:00:44.008-07:002013-07-14T16:00:44.008-07:00Sure, I could do that when I have time. Maybe in ...Sure, I could do that when I have time. Maybe in the next 2-3 days.<br /><br />It's pretty simple. Wheezy netinstall + LXDE would be the way to go. The Debian LXDE iso includes a lot of extra software like Libreoffice, GIMP etc.<br /><br />Debian netinstall + LXDE is actually lighter than Puppy Linux.<br /><br />Check back soon.zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01006273801333641372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-45340678866162639462013-07-14T15:56:08.898-07:002013-07-14T15:56:08.898-07:00Use the Jessie netinstall which installs no GUI. ...Use the Jessie netinstall which installs no GUI. Once the install is done and it reboots you login as root and then enter:<br /><br />apt-get install lxde<br /><br />Then just logout and into LXDE or Openbox. I can guarantee that you won't get GNOME that way. I have Jessie running also but have hardly booted to it so far.<br /><br />zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01006273801333641372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-51904297897297106312013-07-14T14:06:20.732-07:002013-07-14T14:06:20.732-07:00As you mentioned, installing Debian 7.01 by itself...As you mentioned, installing Debian 7.01 by itself on a Power Mac G4 is a snap. There are no outstanding issues that I have found. You just get a fast, up-to-date OS with everything working great right out of the box. Ho-hmm.<br /><br />I needed the Jessie challenge to keep it interesting. Seems like whether or not I choose LXDE as the default GUI or install it over a base system, it always Thomas Carlsonhttp://www.ifixoldmacs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-24323501530899128222013-07-14T12:59:55.917-07:002013-07-14T12:59:55.917-07:00How about a short guide for a very minimal install...How about a short guide for a very minimal install? I have a G4 with a very small hard drive. Don't need all the extra stuff. All I want is the base debian with a low resource graphic interface and a browser for internet use.<br /><br />If you could do that you would be my personal hero.<br /><br />Jennifer Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-2015008307479775272013-07-14T06:24:56.823-07:002013-07-14T06:24:56.823-07:00The compliments are deserved.
I totally get the ...The compliments are deserved. <br /><br />I totally get the value of Openbox and often prefer more of a challenge myself. My point is that with LXDE you get the best of both worlds. Openbox is not only included with LXDE but it's also integrated.<br /><br />If you don't like the taskbar then just remove it. I typically have it hidden myself. All you need is Kupfer to launch everything.zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01006273801333641372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7327445147317079821.post-75464670895634916712013-07-13T22:20:43.100-07:002013-07-13T22:20:43.100-07:00Wow, thanks for the compliments! Just to elaborat...Wow, thanks for the compliments! Just to elaborate on why I chose Openbox, basically I hate taskbars. That's probably the sum of it. Though it's also fun to learn by necessity how things like mounting and logging out and suspend work behind the scenes.<br /><br />I'll leave you with a quick Jessie update. Everything's good except for two big regressions in the 3.9 kernel whichDanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04700474277267739107noreply@blogger.com